We have read up through chapter 17... Up until this point on this blog we have been answering questions from Mr C. Now let's talk about what we have found interesting in the chapters we have read so far.
What I've found interesting so far up to chapter 17 is that Aunt Alexandra & Lula ( from the church ) are both alike. I said that because in chapter 12 Lula was being ignorant and cruel to Jem & Scout because they were a different race. She was trying to get Jem & Scout out of their black church because she was racist. & in chapter 13 Aunt Alexandra was trying to come in and take over, and think she could run everything, and everybody. She was trying to get Atticus to get Clapurnia gone because she was another color. So basically what I'm trying to say is Lula is being ignorant & racist to Jem & Scout & Aunt Alexandra is being ignorant & racist to Calpurnia.
@ Jsunnie ; I think she feels that way because probably when she was growing up all she could think about was being treated badly from whites and now that she's older she feels she can do the same .
I totally disagree with you Kalvon when you are saying that racism wasn't very important to them because that's one of the main things that are going on in the story. That's why the children are facing so much conflict because people are calling there father nigger lover and things like that. The white people and black people aren't all together and happy they are separate and black people are treated like trash. I think you should re consider your thoughts on the racism
No. I don't think I should reconsider my thoughts because in the story as they say Maycomb is a boring town. In the story you only see one main event of racism which is the Tom Robinson case. You are saying that they are not all happy and together but that is not what I am saying. What I said is that it wasnt very important at that time. I believe people took racism serious later on when they started marching for freedom and to stop segregation. You should re-read my post so you could understand it better.
Cash, Have you tried to look at things from Aunt Alexandria's perspective? Remember that the story is told from Scouts point of view and every character has their own reason behind their actions.
Also, Kalvon, racism plays a major role in their lives at this point. While Scout and Jem may not have been aware of the issue of racism, this story is surely depicting their introduction into the world of race and racisim.
Wasn't very important was a Hyperbole. The literal meaning was to be that they don't do anything to change it so it wouldn't be important to them. No one really did anything until around the 1950's when they started protesting. Also, that comment was directed to the Calpurnia and Lula situation because it's african American people who i am saying didn't really do anything about it.
I am talking about your last sentence. "Lula is being ignorant & racist to Jem & Scout & Aunt Alexandra is being ignorant & racist to Calpurnia". What I'm saying is that Lula and Calpurnia make it seem like racism is nothing major to them because they are experiencing it but not doing nothing about it.
I don't wanna seem rude Kalvon because your not making much sense to me. You have made a confusing claim that maybe needs to be revised so that we can understand your point.
Maybe find some evidence that will help me and Cash understand because right now it seems like your saying racism didn't play a role in this story in which it did.
If you would re-read it you would understand. I have just clearly stated I'm talking about Calpurnia and Lula. They are in a time where a lot of racism is common. I'm saying since they are not trying to do anything to stop it then they are not making the situation any better and makes it seem like they are ok with it. Later on Martin Luther King was treated unfairly and he fought for what he stood for. Calpurnia is being treated unfair and what does she do? Nothing. So this is why I say they make it seem like they have no problem with it.
@ Cash: Great comparison! It shows how it's not always the white man or woman that's racist towards an African American. Anybody could be racist. @Kalvon: I completely understand and agree with you. You're trying to say that people of that time didn't think being racist was a big deal which is more of an understatement. @Brande. I feel that you are misinterpreting what Kalvon is communicating to you. He wants you to understand that being racist eventually became a natural thing for Lula, Alexandra and other people living in Maycomb because they didn't know better. They were uneducated. Hopefully, this answers all of your questions!
When getting to about 15 or 16 it starts talking more about the trial and it starts to get into the intensity of racism having to do with the trial. Getting up to chapter 17 the accuser Bob Ewell takes the stand . At first he feels confident in himself but as it goes on Atticus confronts him with some unpredicted questions that gets the audience stirred and Bob uneasy. On page 237 it says "Atticus Finch was taking advantage of him. Tricking lawyers like Atticus Finch took advantage of him all the time with their tricking ways." Atticus wasn't tricking him he was just asking simple questions. Typically when someone knows they may get caught for doing something they tend to get nervous and scared they might get caught easily. I don't trust Bob Ewell and I know he is lying, no doubt.
Something I found interesting in the story was from Chapter 7. I find it strange on how Nathan would seal up the hole in the tree. He told Scout and Jem that the he did it because the tree was sick. On the other hand when they went and asked Atticus, he said that the tree was in good shape and was healthy. I don't know who is telling the truth but I believe he sealed the hole for a bigger reason.
The most interesting chapter to me was chapter 17 because I had been wondering about the girl getting raped and was it true. I had thoughts about if Tom Robinson raped her than what were he motives for wanting to do it. It didn't make sense that out of the blue a black man would rape a white woman and in this time I'm sure they knew the consequences would be really bad because they are of color. When they are at the trail and they started questioning Bob Ewell it didn't make any sense to me about why he didn't call the doctor for his daughter, it got extra juicy to me when Atticus had him writing to see if he was left handed or right handed because then there would be a possibility that he could have abused his own daughter then pinned rape on Tom Robinson. Then Bob was taking his time while answering the questions because he didn't wanna slip up and be wrong. But if he was telling the truth about her being raped he would have been confident in his answers. You won't stumble or move slowly when you know the honest to god truth. He also swore under oath that he would tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth so the. One would start to wonder what will his punishment be if he is lying. I feel bad for Tom Robinson because he is being put through a lot of stuff and there is a possibility that he didn't even rape the girl. If Bob Ewell is lying I believe the way he got his daughter to admit to being raped is because he may have abused her. His story really doesn't add up.
That's a great observation Brande, if he were telling the truth he would be so familiar with his story that he wouldn't need to speak so slowly, I like this point.
You should also keep in mind that another reason Mayella may want to lie is because she may fear the repercussions of admitting that she willingly slept with a black man. People would treat her worse than they're treating Atticus, for defending a black man.
I like your point about the fact that she might be embarrassed because she slept with a black man. I also see the point about how people would treat her worse than Atticus.
Something that was interesting was when they went over to Boo Radley In begging of the book and they was trying to get him to come out of his house. I felt that this was interesting because it show how they did not listen to Atticus when he said not to go over there but they still did. Another thing that was interesting with Boo Radley was when Miss Maude house burned down and Boo Radley finally came out the house and put a blanket over Scout. I said these two things because it's show that Boo Radley is not one of the Mockingbirds in To Kill A Mockingbird.
Ok Taniya you have opened my eyes to why Boo is a mockingbird. Miss Maudie says "Mockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in peoples corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us." So your example of the night of the fire proves that he is like a mockingbird because he didn't have to come put the blanket on scout but he did.
I like to talk about the Mockingbird as a symbol of Boo Radley because a Mockingbird stays to itself and doesn't mess with anyone and tries to make pleasant music. In the story it states " they don't eat up people's gardens, they don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing there heart out to us.thats why it's a sin to kill a Mockingbird" (p.g 148). This makes me interested because Boo Radley don't mess with anyone either he just stays to himself that's why I don't understand why they would want to mess with him.
Exactly Daisha this is what I exactly stated in my annotations in The paper Mr.C just gave us about chaper 10 how Boo Radley would be a good symbol of the MockingBirds.
There was a lot of things within these chapters that I thought was interesting and I would like to bring up, but my favorite was when Boo Radley in chapter 8, when Miss Maudie's housed burned down and they were all watching the house burn into ashes outside, and Scout was cold and he came out because he saw her shivering and placed the cover on her. In the text it says " Someday, maybe, Scout can thank him for covering her up. Thank who? I asked. Boo Radley. You were so busy looking at the fire you didn't know it when he put the blanket around you" (pg.96). I feel as if that part of the book was very interesting and exciting just to see Boo Radley finally come out the house to help the one person who seemed to be the most interested in him and what he does in the house all day. That was the part that caught my eye the most and kind of persuaded me to continue to read the book, because I thought the book would start to be even more interesting, so it was kind of like a cliffhanger for me.
What I have found interesting so far is Scout because she acts just like a little boy to me. I feel that she need to step up and start to act like a girly girl. She always tries to fight and boys. If you knew that you couldn't beat know boy why keep on trying. Back in chapter 10 it said that Scout wouldn't fight any more her daddy wouldn't let her. Knowing how Scout is she stated that she would still fight publicly for Atticus. Scout she just doesn't get enough.Chapter 14 In To Kill A MockingBird it states" he slapped and I tried another left, but a punch in the stomach sent me sprawling on the floor." [Pg184]. Scout she just need to calm down and start to act like a girl more than she do as a boy. I feel that she is a Tom Boy.
From reading through chapter1 through 17 of to kill a mokingbird by Harper lee I would say that the part that interested me so far is when scout talks about Atticus being nearly fifty and not being able to do much stuff that other children's fathers can do like hunting,playing porker,fishing,drinking,or smoking or any other things that young grown-ups can do and because of that they see him as not interesting but in chapter 10 when Atticus shoots that dog scout and Jem see Atticus in a new different way than just a man who is fifty.
The thing I found interesting in to kill a mockingbird so far is that Tom Robinson is totally being quiet throughout the trial. In chapter 17,he said absolutely nothing and he seems very shy and quiet. I cannot wait to get to the chapter or part when he goes to say what he has to say. What I also thought interesting was the quote, "you can shoot all the bluejays you want, but it's a sin to kill a mocking bird". This tells me that mockingbirds are delicate and aren't meant to be killed.
Thus far, I find 10 as the most interesting chapter in To Kill A Mockingbird. Chapter 10 talks about the title of the novel with a deeper meaning. My thoughts on the title, To Kill A Mockingbird is that mockingbirds are unpopular because from the quiz we took, the possible answers were people who were hated on or outcasts like Tom Robinson, Atticus and Boo Radley. All three of them could be considered mockingbirds because they don't bother anyone, nor do they judge anyone, and they make Maycomb life interesting. In the text Boo Radley is a " malevolent phantom"[pg.10], Atticus is criticized for defending Tom Robinson and Tom Robinson is scorned for being accused of raping a white girl, Mayella Ewell in chapter 17. These characteristics make them mockingbirds. Basically, I believe Harper Lee or (Miss Maudie in chapter 10) is saying that it's a sin to disturb peace or it's a sin to harm the innocent. Mockingbirds are born mimicking people. It's just how they are. Boo doesn't want to known as a frightening person from Miss Maudie's description.[pg.61] Tom Robinson doesn't want to be accused of doing something he didn't do.[pg.265] Atticus doesn't want to be ridiculed for doing what he feels is right.[pg.100-101]
What I've found interesting so far up to chapter 17 is that Aunt Alexandra & Lula ( from the church ) are both alike. I said that because in chapter 12 Lula was being ignorant and cruel to Jem & Scout because they were a different race. She was trying to get Jem & Scout out of their black church because she was racist. & in chapter 13 Aunt Alexandra was trying to come in and take over, and think she could run everything, and everybody. She was trying to get Atticus to get Clapurnia gone because she was another color. So basically what I'm trying to say is Lula is being ignorant & racist to Jem & Scout & Aunt Alexandra is being ignorant & racist to Calpurnia.
ReplyDeleteI agree but why do you think Lula feels this way if she already knows the bad side of racism?
Delete@ Jsunnie ; I think she feels that way because probably when she was growing up all she could think about was being treated badly from whites and now that she's older she feels she can do the same .
DeleteI believe that racism wasn't very important to them at that point of life and that they did not think about it as much as we do today.
DeleteI agree kalvon I feel that they just was not on the racism stage because that was not the way that Atticus raised them to be in a town like Maycomb.
DeleteI totally disagree with you Kalvon when you are saying that racism wasn't very important to them because that's one of the main things that are going on in the story. That's why the children are facing so much conflict because people are calling there father nigger lover and things like that. The white people and black people aren't all together and happy they are separate and black people are treated like trash. I think you should re consider your thoughts on the racism
DeleteNo. I don't think I should reconsider my thoughts because in the story as they say Maycomb is a boring town. In the story you only see one main event of racism which is the Tom Robinson case. You are saying that they are not all happy and together but that is not what I am saying. What I said is that it wasnt very important at that time. I believe people took racism serious later on when they started marching for freedom and to stop segregation. You should re-read my post so you could understand it better.
DeleteCash, Have you tried to look at things from Aunt Alexandria's perspective? Remember that the story is told from Scouts point of view and every character has their own reason behind their actions.
DeleteAlso, Kalvon, racism plays a major role in their lives at this point. While Scout and Jem may not have been aware of the issue of racism, this story is surely depicting their introduction into the world of race and racisim.
Wasn't very important was a Hyperbole. The literal meaning was to be that they don't do anything to change it so it wouldn't be important to them. No one really did anything until around the 1950's when they started protesting. Also, that comment was directed to the Calpurnia and Lula situation because it's african American people who i am saying didn't really do anything about it.
Delete@ Kalvon ; I still don't understand what your trying to say ...
DeleteI am talking about your last sentence. "Lula is being ignorant & racist to Jem & Scout & Aunt Alexandra is being ignorant & racist to Calpurnia". What I'm saying is that Lula and Calpurnia make it seem like racism is nothing major to them because they are experiencing it but not doing nothing about it.
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DeleteI don't wanna seem rude Kalvon because your not making much sense to me. You have made a confusing claim that maybe needs to be revised so that we can understand your point.
DeleteMaybe find some evidence that will help me and Cash understand because right now it seems like your saying racism didn't play a role in this story in which it did.
I don't think that the racist part is not really working for you but other than that goooooooooooood joooooooooooooob.
DeleteIf you would re-read it you would understand. I have just clearly stated I'm talking about Calpurnia and Lula. They are in a time where a lot of racism is common. I'm saying since they are not trying to do anything to stop it then they are not making the situation any better and makes it seem like they are ok with it. Later on Martin Luther King was treated unfairly and he fought for what he stood for. Calpurnia is being treated unfair and what does she do? Nothing. So this is why I say they make it seem like they have no problem with it.
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DeleteIt's frustrating that you keep saying RE READ.! Apparently your point isn't getting across to me.
DeleteFurthermore they do have a problem with it. You have to read between the lines it's doesn't always have to be clearly started for you to see that.
@ Cash: Great comparison! It shows how it's not always the white man or woman that's racist towards an African American. Anybody could be racist. @Kalvon: I completely understand and agree with you. You're trying to say that people of that time didn't think being racist was a big deal which is more of an understatement. @Brande. I feel that you are misinterpreting what Kalvon is communicating to you. He wants you to understand that being racist eventually became a natural thing for Lula, Alexandra and other people living in Maycomb because they didn't know better. They were uneducated. Hopefully, this answers all of your questions!
DeleteWe'll Jessica if that's how you feel so be it but the way he worded his response looks as if he was saying there was no racism.
DeleteWhen getting to about 15 or 16 it starts talking more about the trial and it starts to get into the intensity of racism having to do with the trial. Getting up to chapter 17 the accuser Bob Ewell takes the stand . At first he feels confident in himself but as it goes on Atticus confronts him with some unpredicted questions that gets the audience stirred and Bob uneasy. On page 237 it says "Atticus Finch was taking advantage of him. Tricking lawyers like Atticus Finch took advantage of him all the time with their tricking ways." Atticus wasn't tricking him he was just asking simple questions. Typically when someone knows they may get caught for doing something they tend to get nervous and scared they might get caught easily. I don't trust Bob Ewell and I know he is lying, no doubt.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't exactly call it tricking other. Atticus finch Is just doing his job, which is getting the trust and defending Tom Robinson.
DeleteI like your point of thinking Jshunnie especially how you use is Atticus doing his job or being brave towards tom Robinson.
DeleteSomething I found interesting in the story was from Chapter 7. I find it strange on how Nathan would seal up the hole in the tree. He told Scout and Jem that the he did it because the tree was sick. On the other hand when they went and asked Atticus, he said that the tree was in good shape and was healthy. I don't know who is telling the truth but I believe he sealed the hole for a bigger reason.
ReplyDeleteI like that part too because I felt that it was strange for Nathan to fill up the whole to.
DeleteWhat page do up you have for your evidence because I seen something in a different chapter referring to that.
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ReplyDeleteThe most interesting chapter to me was chapter 17 because I had been wondering about the girl getting raped and was it true. I had thoughts about if Tom Robinson raped her than what were he motives for wanting to do it. It didn't make sense that out of the blue a black man would rape a white woman and in this time I'm sure they knew the consequences would be really bad because they are of color. When they are at the trail and they started questioning Bob Ewell it didn't make any sense to me about why he didn't call the doctor for his daughter, it got extra juicy to me when Atticus had him writing to see if he was left handed or right handed because then there would be a possibility that he could have abused his own daughter then pinned rape on Tom Robinson. Then Bob was taking his time while answering the questions because he didn't wanna slip up and be wrong. But if he was telling the truth about her being raped he would have been confident in his answers. You won't stumble or move slowly when you know the honest to god truth. He also swore under oath that he would tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth so the. One would start to wonder what will his punishment be if he is lying. I feel bad for Tom Robinson because he is being put through a lot of stuff and there is a possibility that he didn't even rape the girl. If Bob Ewell is lying I believe the way he got his daughter to admit to being raped is because he may have abused her. His story really doesn't add up.
I agree with you. Bob Ewell and Mayella are both lying.
DeleteI like what you is thinking brand'e it shows that you have spunk towards your point of thinking and I like spunk.
DeleteThat's a great observation Brande, if he were telling the truth he would be so familiar with his story that he wouldn't need to speak so slowly, I like this point.
DeleteYou should also keep in mind that another reason Mayella may want to lie is because she may fear the repercussions of admitting that she willingly slept with a black man. People would treat her worse than they're treating Atticus, for defending a black man.
I like your point about the fact that she might be embarrassed because she slept with a black man. I also see the point about how people would treat her worse than Atticus.
DeleteSomething that was interesting was when they went over to Boo Radley In begging of the book and they was trying to get him to come out of his house. I felt that this was interesting because it show how they did not listen to Atticus when he said not to go over there but they still did. Another thing that was interesting with Boo Radley was when Miss Maude house burned down and Boo Radley finally came out the house and put a blanket over Scout. I said these two things because it's show that Boo Radley is not one of the Mockingbirds in To Kill A Mockingbird.
ReplyDeleteBut miss Maudie uses the mockingbird as something peaceful and innocent. So what proof do you have that boo is not innocent.
DeleteOk Taniya you have opened my eyes to why Boo is a mockingbird. Miss Maudie says "Mockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in peoples corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us." So your example of the night of the fire proves that he is like a mockingbird because he didn't have to come put the blanket on scout but he did.
Delete@Brande I don't feel that you get the understanding of what I'm trying to say. Read it over and maybe you might get what I'm trying to say.
DeleteI also feel that was interesting , I like how you went back in the text and brought that up.
DeleteI like to talk about the Mockingbird as a symbol of Boo Radley because a Mockingbird stays to itself and doesn't mess with anyone and tries to make pleasant music. In the story it states " they don't eat up people's gardens, they don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing there heart out to us.thats why it's a sin to kill a Mockingbird" (p.g 148). This makes me interested because Boo Radley don't mess with anyone either he just stays to himself that's why I don't understand why they would want to mess with him.
ReplyDeleteI have this exact same thought. I think he may be what the mockingbird symbolizes
DeleteExactly Daisha this is what I exactly stated in my annotations in The paper Mr.C just gave us about chaper 10 how Boo Radley would be a good symbol of the MockingBirds.
DeleteThis is one of the topics that I like as well in that story so keep up the good work.
DeleteThere was a lot of things within these chapters that I thought was interesting and I would like to bring up, but my favorite was when Boo Radley in chapter 8, when Miss Maudie's housed burned down and they were all watching the house burn into ashes outside, and Scout was cold and he came out because he saw her shivering and placed the cover on her. In the text it says " Someday, maybe, Scout can thank him for covering her up. Thank who? I asked. Boo Radley. You were so busy looking at the fire you didn't know it when he put the blanket around you" (pg.96). I feel as if that part of the book was very interesting and exciting just to see Boo Radley finally come out the house to help the one person who seemed to be the most interested in him and what he does in the house all day. That was the part that caught my eye the most and kind of persuaded me to continue to read the book, because I thought the book would start to be even more interesting, so it was kind of like a cliffhanger for me.
ReplyDeleteI agree Trinity because I would have never thought it would have been Boo Radley because he never comes out. GOOD JOB!!!
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ReplyDeleteWhat I have found interesting so far is Scout because she acts just like a little boy to me. I feel that she need to step up and start to act like a girly girl. She always tries to fight and boys. If you knew that you couldn't beat know boy why keep on trying. Back in chapter 10 it said that Scout wouldn't fight any more her daddy wouldn't let her. Knowing how Scout is she stated that she would still fight publicly for Atticus. Scout she just doesn't get enough.Chapter 14 In To Kill A MockingBird it states" he slapped and I tried another left, but a punch in the stomach sent me sprawling on the floor." [Pg184]. Scout she just need to calm down and start to act like a girl more than she do as a boy. I feel that she is a Tom Boy.
Nedra I can see that you have a lot of parts in to kill a mokingbird that you like which I like so good job you go girl.
DeleteFrom reading through chapter1 through 17 of to kill a mokingbird by Harper lee I would say that the part that interested me so far is when scout talks about Atticus being nearly fifty and not being able to do much stuff that other children's fathers can do like hunting,playing porker,fishing,drinking,or smoking or any other things that young grown-ups can do and because of that they see him as not interesting but in chapter 10 when Atticus shoots that dog scout and Jem see Atticus in a new different way than just a man who is fifty.
ReplyDeleteThe thing I found interesting in to kill a mockingbird so far is that Tom Robinson is totally being quiet throughout the trial. In chapter 17,he said absolutely nothing and he seems very shy and quiet. I cannot wait to get to the chapter or part when he goes to say what he has to say. What I also thought interesting was the quote, "you can shoot all the bluejays you want, but it's a sin to kill a mocking bird". This tells me that mockingbirds are delicate and aren't meant to be killed.
ReplyDeleteThus far, I find 10 as the most interesting chapter in To Kill A Mockingbird. Chapter 10 talks about the title of the novel with a deeper meaning. My thoughts on the title, To Kill A Mockingbird is that mockingbirds are unpopular because from the quiz we took, the possible answers were people who were hated on or outcasts like Tom Robinson, Atticus and Boo Radley. All three of them could be considered mockingbirds because they don't bother anyone, nor do they judge anyone, and they make Maycomb life interesting. In the text Boo Radley is a " malevolent phantom"[pg.10], Atticus is criticized for defending Tom Robinson and Tom Robinson is scorned for being accused of raping a white girl, Mayella Ewell in chapter 17. These characteristics make them mockingbirds. Basically, I believe Harper Lee or (Miss Maudie in chapter 10) is saying that it's a sin to disturb peace or it's a sin to harm the innocent. Mockingbirds are born mimicking people. It's just how they are. Boo doesn't want to known as a frightening person from Miss Maudie's description.[pg.61] Tom Robinson doesn't want to be accused of doing something he didn't do.[pg.265] Atticus doesn't want to be ridiculed for doing what he feels is right.[pg.100-101]
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